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		<title>By: eleniel</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>eleniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to check them out.  What&#039;s wrong with the main character?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to check them out.  What&#8217;s wrong with the main character?</p>
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		<title>By: Jurisanne</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-973</link>
		<dc:creator>Jurisanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage you to read the two Mass Effect books, the first being from before the game and the second coming after the ending of the first game.  

If you can get over the female lead, it&#039;s actually has a lot of information about the gameworld that doesn&#039;t really have time to be mentioned in the video game, and it explains what happened to earth and why all ethnicities are present and accounted for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage you to read the two Mass Effect books, the first being from before the game and the second coming after the ending of the first game.  </p>
<p>If you can get over the female lead, it&#8217;s actually has a lot of information about the gameworld that doesn&#8217;t really have time to be mentioned in the video game, and it explains what happened to earth and why all ethnicities are present and accounted for.</p>
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		<title>By: Sticks And Stones &#124; Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Sticks And Stones &#124; Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alex Raymond Mass Effect: First Impressions [...]</description>
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		<title>By: eleniel</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>eleniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but if you look at all the females and all the males across every species, all the females have very thin hourglass shapes; they all have bodies that are acceptably sexy according to our beauty standard (the Asari, Tali, every female human you see).  Whereas there is a vast body type range between the male Turians (tall, muscular, lizardy), Krogans (hulky, hunchbacked, lizardy), Salarians (tall, thin, froggy) Elcor (huge and four-legged), and Volus (short and round).

None of the aliens are sexually ambiguous except perhaps the Hanar; they are all gendered according to our standards.  And the game does nothing to challenge our assumptions based on those standards (meaning, all the creatures we assume to be male based on voice or whatever actually ARE male in the fiction).  Please see my most recent Mass Effect post for a more detailed explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but if you look at all the females and all the males across every species, all the females have very thin hourglass shapes; they all have bodies that are acceptably sexy according to our beauty standard (the Asari, Tali, every female human you see).  Whereas there is a vast body type range between the male Turians (tall, muscular, lizardy), Krogans (hulky, hunchbacked, lizardy), Salarians (tall, thin, froggy) Elcor (huge and four-legged), and Volus (short and round).</p>
<p>None of the aliens are sexually ambiguous except perhaps the Hanar; they are all gendered according to our standards.  And the game does nothing to challenge our assumptions based on those standards (meaning, all the creatures we assume to be male based on voice or whatever actually ARE male in the fiction).  Please see my most recent Mass Effect post for a more detailed explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: ToshiStation</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>ToshiStation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, all the female aliens had one body type, but so did the female humans, all the male aliens, all male humans, and the sexually ambiguous aliens. There was one body type for each alien species, and one for both genders of human males. I&#039;m assuming that they either didn&#039;t have the time or didn&#039;t have the memory required to implement them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, all the female aliens had one body type, but so did the female humans, all the male aliens, all male humans, and the sexually ambiguous aliens. There was one body type for each alien species, and one for both genders of human males. I&#8217;m assuming that they either didn&#8217;t have the time or didn&#8217;t have the memory required to implement them.</p>
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		<title>By: eleniel</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>eleniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, since I’ve played it, I think I can say with some degree of certainty that shooting things tells NO story, beyond what you shoot at. It’s certainly a part of the game, but not something that is a focus. Yet you rushed through dialog, thus, I would presume, not really noting that part of the story.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have &lt;i&gt;no idea&lt;/i&gt; whether I rushed through the dialogue or not, as I said no such thing.  This isn&#039;t my last post on Mass Effect, perhaps it&#039;s possible I simply haven&#039;t written about the story yet?  But keep on looking for hypocrisy on my blog if that&#039;s really what floats your boat.  Maybe you&#039;ll find some eventually.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Be that as it may, I would like to ask you another question, which doesn’t relate to Mass Effect, but DOES relate to an article you’ve written. Inthe up-coming game Alpha Protocol, there is an achievement that you remarked on, where-in you ‘have’ to sleep with four of the women in the game. What I wonder is, why don’t you note that there is another achievement for not sleeping with any of them?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you want to talk about that post, comment on it.  Don&#039;t derail this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, since I’ve played it, I think I can say with some degree of certainty that shooting things tells NO story, beyond what you shoot at. It’s certainly a part of the game, but not something that is a focus. Yet you rushed through dialog, thus, I would presume, not really noting that part of the story.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have <i>no idea</i> whether I rushed through the dialogue or not, as I said no such thing.  This isn&#8217;t my last post on Mass Effect, perhaps it&#8217;s possible I simply haven&#8217;t written about the story yet?  But keep on looking for hypocrisy on my blog if that&#8217;s really what floats your boat.  Maybe you&#8217;ll find some eventually.</p>
<blockquote><p>Be that as it may, I would like to ask you another question, which doesn’t relate to Mass Effect, but DOES relate to an article you’ve written. Inthe up-coming game Alpha Protocol, there is an achievement that you remarked on, where-in you ‘have’ to sleep with four of the women in the game. What I wonder is, why don’t you note that there is another achievement for not sleeping with any of them?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you want to talk about that post, comment on it.  Don&#8217;t derail this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: DannyBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>DannyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, since I&#039;ve played it, I think I can say with some degree of certainty that shooting things tells NO story, beyond what you shoot at. It&#039;s certainly a part of the game, but not something that is a focus. Yet you rushed through dialog, thus, I would presume, not really noting that part of the story.

Be that as it may, I would like to ask you another question, which doesn&#039;t relate to Mass Effect, but DOES relate to an article you&#039;ve written. Inthe up-coming game Alpha Protocol, there is an achievement that you remarked on, where-in you &#039;have&#039; to sleep with four of the women in the game. What I wonder is, why don&#039;t you note that there is another achievement for not sleeping with any of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since I&#8217;ve played it, I think I can say with some degree of certainty that shooting things tells NO story, beyond what you shoot at. It&#8217;s certainly a part of the game, but not something that is a focus. Yet you rushed through dialog, thus, I would presume, not really noting that part of the story.</p>
<p>Be that as it may, I would like to ask you another question, which doesn&#8217;t relate to Mass Effect, but DOES relate to an article you&#8217;ve written. Inthe up-coming game Alpha Protocol, there is an achievement that you remarked on, where-in you &#8216;have&#8217; to sleep with four of the women in the game. What I wonder is, why don&#8217;t you note that there is another achievement for not sleeping with any of them?</p>
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		<title>By: eleniel</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>eleniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The paragraph you quote from this article is a comment on the poor pacing of the game, and the boring way it gives you necessary information (people standing around talking).  If a game is poorly paced, and delivers vital information in a way that is not engaging, then the game is telling its story poorly and thus deserves to be criticized for it.

That doesn&#039;t mean I wasn&#039;t interested in the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paragraph you quote from this article is a comment on the poor pacing of the game, and the boring way it gives you necessary information (people standing around talking).  If a game is poorly paced, and delivers vital information in a way that is not engaging, then the game is telling its story poorly and thus deserves to be criticized for it.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean I wasn&#8217;t interested in the story.</p>
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		<title>By: DannyBoy</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>DannyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just HAVE to ask...

Quote from your About-page: &#039;What I hope to do with this blog is write regularly about video games and, more specifically, stories in and storytelling with video games. I’ve read some things recently that suggest that games shouldn’t be used for telling stories, and aren’t inherently a storytelling medium, but I disagree.&#039;

Quote from this article:&#039;When I regained control of Shepard, she was in the office of the human ambassador at the Citadel, the major city of the game. This began a three-hour-long segment of running around talking to people, listening to exposition, and gathering my crew, all while I was itching to get back into the action.&#039;

Could you please explain how this works out? You want to write about the story-telling, yet you rush through it, wishing it would all end so you can go back to shooting things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just HAVE to ask&#8230;</p>
<p>Quote from your About-page: &#8216;What I hope to do with this blog is write regularly about video games and, more specifically, stories in and storytelling with video games. I’ve read some things recently that suggest that games shouldn’t be used for telling stories, and aren’t inherently a storytelling medium, but I disagree.&#8217;</p>
<p>Quote from this article:&#8217;When I regained control of Shepard, she was in the office of the human ambassador at the Citadel, the major city of the game. This began a three-hour-long segment of running around talking to people, listening to exposition, and gathering my crew, all while I was itching to get back into the action.&#8217;</p>
<p>Could you please explain how this works out? You want to write about the story-telling, yet you rush through it, wishing it would all end so you can go back to shooting things?</p>
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		<title>By: eleniel</title>
		<link>http://whilenotfinished.theirisnetwork.org/2009/08/21/mass-effect-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>eleniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, right? They even have a character who happens to be disabled! This is leaps and bounds ahead of pretty much every major game ever! And then there is shit like the Asari and how all the female aliens have ONE body type. What. The. Eff.

(By the way, can we please avoid comparing a game&#039;s failings to real mental illnesses? In the interest of keeping this blog a safe a place as possible, it is offensive to people with mental illnesses to do so.  In addition, it is not very accurate!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, right? They even have a character who happens to be disabled! This is leaps and bounds ahead of pretty much every major game ever! And then there is shit like the Asari and how all the female aliens have ONE body type. What. The. Eff.</p>
<p>(By the way, can we please avoid comparing a game&#8217;s failings to real mental illnesses? In the interest of keeping this blog a safe a place as possible, it is offensive to people with mental illnesses to do so.  In addition, it is not very accurate!)</p>
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